The recent suggestion
that frankincense and myrrh are components of the Philosopher's stone is in
line with a lot of previous discussion on the WhiteGold list. Here is that
recent suggestion:
Subject: Re: WhiteGold:
The Real Thing
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003
12:58:45 -0700
I know who this guy
is. He knows who I am and he is afraid
to debate
me. His stuff is okay, not great just ok. Some people say it heals some
small cuts. Nothing for me. I've been taking ormes I made myself. I got
many more effects from
ormes.
Frankincense and Myrrh.
John P.
The first mention of frankincense and myrrh on the WhiteGold list occurred in September of 1996:
At 02:37 AM 9/7/96
-0400, Randy Lee Blain wrote to the
[email protected]
unmoderated forum:
>This is my second
posting to this group. This substance really makes one
>think, does it not.
Has anybody done an analysis of the percentile of
>the various ORMEs in
frankincense and myrrh or ginseng.
Following is a selection
of most of the subsequent posts on this subject:
From: "Larry
Schamber"
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002
19:17:32 -0500
Subject: [ormus_swg]
Ormus Distillation means in Psalm 68
I searched a digital
Bible for references to "dove" and "gold" and found something
interesting in Psalm 68.
Psalm 68:10-18 may be
interpreted as describing an ormus distillation means.
What is most interesting
about this is not the distillation means itself, but the confirmation that they
knew about ormus in biblical times. That would explain much of the bibical
miraculous phenomena and how we can reproduce them today.
Psalm 68:10-18 Thy
congregation hath dwelt therein: thou, O God, hast prepared of thy goodness for
the poor. [11] The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that
published it. [12] Kings (melekim) of armies (hosts) did flee apace: and she
that tarried at home divided the spoil. [13] Though ye have lien among the
pots, yet shall ye be as the wings of a dove (yownah) covered with silver, and
her feathers with yellow gold. [14] When the Almighty scattered kings (or
angels, melekim) in it, it was white as snow in Salmon. [15] The hill of God
('elohiym) is as the hill of Bashan; an high hill as the hill of Bashan. [16]
Why leap ye, ye high hills? this is the hill which God ('elohiym) desireth to
dwell in; yea, the Lord will dwell in it for ever. [17] The chariots of God are
twenty thousand, even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai,
in the holy place. [18] Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity
captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that
the Lord God might dwell among them.
This last verse is
applicable to Jesus. I suspect that Jesus used a form of ormus and gave it to
some of his disciples. We know that 50 days after the last communion, the
apostles in the upper room received manifestations of Spirit, which appeared as
a cool breeze and as bodies of light descending from above.
Verse 13 could describe
ormus: "wings of a dove covered with silver, and her feathers with yellow
gold," which is similar to the "white dove," "heart of dove"
or "white feather" name which was in the medieval age given to the Au-ormus. "White dove" is the
literal translation of the Hebrew word "lebyonaw" which is normally
translated into "frankincense." Frankincense, or white dove is mixed
into the bread of the presence, or "lechem panim." Therefore
references to dove, feathers and gold or silver could be references to
lebyonaw.
Frankincense is a
pleasant smelling gum, the essence of which can be mixed with olive oil and
applied to the body as an ointment. I have that kind of frankincense and use it
daily. It smells soapy and tastes even soapier. I don't think you would want to
eat it even if sprinkled on loaves of white bread.
However, White Dove as
prepared and sold by Ocean Alchemy would be flavorless if separated from the
salt water. It would not change the flavor of white bread. The white dove in
salt water preparation could easily be mixed with the ingredients of white
bread and baked into a finished loaf that would be physically indistinguishable
from normal white bread. It would be delicious, like normal white bread. If
there are people who can see "light" emanating from ormus probably
they could differentiate the lechem panim from plain bread. I am not one of
those people.
In verse 13, "lien
among the pots" describes that distillation apparatus in which the white
dove condenses like snow. The distillation apparatus is the "pots."
In verses 12,14
"kings" is melekim, the same that was in Psalm 91:14 translated into
"angels."
Psalm 91:14 For he shall give his angels (melekim)
charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
I have earlier reported
that angels/living spirits of light were visibly manifested by some users of
ormus according to ordinary observers. No doubt the Israelites, Hebrews,
priests and prophets were well aware of this phenomenon, in proportion to their
familiarity with and good understanding of the effects of ormus in spiritual
magnification. There are many mentions of angels in the Bible. Angels are not
merely imaginary creatures, as we now have very many modern day witnesses.
Perhaps some of the so
called angels were physical priests, apparently flesh and blood men and women
who were dispatched by some undetermined priesthood, perhaps serving under
Melchezedek in Jerusalem, as they were perhaps known by Abraham. These angels
could easily wear plain clothes and walk incognito among the people. Only a few
would discern them and then they would think they were holy men. I am not
claiming in any subtle manner that I am an angel, nor a holy man.
David saw angels and so
wrote of them. He also had the unusual privilege of being able to lean against
the Ark of the Covenant without being struck dead. The practices of Moses would
have been handed down to David and the priesthood of his era, a period of time
only about 200 years after Moses.
Verse 14, "When the
Almighty scattered kings (or angels, melekim) in it, it was white as snow in
Salmon." is more literally written:
"the Almighty
angels he snowed into Zalmon."
Zalmon means:
Tsalmown, Hebrew 6756,
Strong’s, tsal-mone'; from Hebrew 6754 (tselem); shady; Tsalmon, the name of a
place in Palestine and of an Israelite :- Zalmon.
tselem, Hebrew 6754,
Strong’s, tseh'-lem; from an unused root meaning to shade; a phantom, i.e.
(figurative) illusion, resemblance; hence a representative figure, especially
an idol :- image, vain shew.
So "the Almighty
angels snowed into Zalmon" means "The Almighty condensed angels into
physical form, as white snow in resemblance."
This is another attempt
to compare the way the snow was dispersed upon the earth or how it could be
distilled upon hills, to actual features beaten into the rim of a wide rimmed
shallow copper pot, there to condense ormus. A rich ormus source would be
preprocessed, perhaps as we now extract it from Dead Sea salt, placed in the
cup in the center of the pan, and then heated upon red coals. The cool wide rim
with hills beaten into it would tend to collect distilled, purified ormus like
as snow condensed in the shadows of hills. I assume that the distillation pot
was covered with a neatly fitted lid that rested on the hills.
From: "Sharon Rose"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Frankincense & Shewbread
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 09:08:12 -0800
Each month I collect and prepare information for
some essential oil classes I facilitate. In preparation for the holidays, this
month's theme is on Biblical Oils and features Galbanum, Spikenard, Myrrh and
Frankincense. I try to bring other related facts into each meeting, and in
preparation for this month's gathering I have been researching the use of Holy
Oils for anointing and the use of incense in sacraments and ceremonies.
According to one source:
[http://ww2.netnitco.net/users/legend01/frankin.htm]
"A memorial portion of the sacred *incense*
was placed in two gold bowls on a table in the temple on which was placed the
twelve loaves known as the 'bread of the Presence' or showbread. This *incense*
was burnt at the end of each week when fresh loaves came to replace the old
ones. {Lev 24:7; Clark's Commentary, Ex 25:30]"
I asterisked the word 'incense' above, as for the
most part, any historical reference to frankincense is synonymous with the word
incense.
I am not sure how to 'read' and understand the
above quote. On one hand I could assume that the shewbread was placed on the
table next to the gold bowls containing the incense, or on the other hand that
the 12 loaves were placed inside the 2 gold bowls containing the incense where
by they where burnt along with the incense.
Interesting how Shewbread is described as 'the
bread of Presence'.
Why were *12* loaves brought each week? Why not 6
or 11?
Other sources describe the great value placed on
frankincense and how it was as valuable as precious metals and gems. Wealth was
measured by its quantity.
Among other things, frankincense is believed to be
a symbol of the divine name of God.
Frankincense was also used in braziers for
religious significance, for state occasions, triumphs, sacraments and simply
for heat (a mixture of precious woods were used, but frankincense was always
among them). The smoke of frankincense was considered to be symbolic of prayers
rising up to God.
Isn't it possible, even likely, that frankincense
was used in the vicinity (for direct or indirect purpose) when shewbread was
produced? Historically its value, esteem, and use was high. I propose that
diffusing frankincense (as an oil or incense) might be a worth while endeavor
in preparing our places for the production of ORMUS.
If anyone is interested in more information about
frankincense or the essential oil I would be happy to supply what I have. I
also place a monthly bulk order and can supply quality E.O.s and incense at
excellent prices.
From: Sharon
Subject: Re: WhiteGold: ancient process to make
ormus
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 07:37:23 -0700
Yes, I read something about the ash of
Frankincense, but I can't recall the details. I'll try to find my references. I
just recieved a very special EO order yesterday that included a 4 month old
back order of Oman CO2 extracted Frankincense (Boswellia carteri). It was held
up in customs because of the war. Frankincense from Oman is suppose to be
superior to Frankincense grown in any other regions. CO2 extraction is the
highest quality extraction process. I was anxious to see if this product met my
expectations - AND GUESS WHAT! It exceeded them.
I placed a small amount of frankincense on my brain
stem and had an ORMUS-like experience. I have long contended that the essential
oils of trees (primarily the sap) are high in ORMUS. Following is a small
amount of info on Frankincense that I could locate on short notice, but I'm
sure I posted more on this subject to the list sometime last year....
"References to Frankincense can be traced back
to nearly 5,000 years ago. The mythical Phoenix bird was thought to build its
funeral pyre out of frankincense and myrrh. Pliny mentions it as an antidote to
hemlock. In China it is used for leprosy. Frankincense shows up in medieval
recipes to flavor sauces used for roasts and syrups used for sweetcakes.
According to the teachings of the Torah, Frankincense itself is a sacrifice, a
gift of tribute. At the time of Christ, Frankincense grew in Arabia, India, and
Ethiopia and demonstrates the extent of commerce.
Frankincense was an ingredient in the sacred
incense and holy anointing oil of the Israelites. [Exodus 30:34-38] When burned
it produced a white smoke which symbolized the prayers and praises of the
faithful ascending to heaven. Because the ancients often burned frankincense
during religious rituals, this gift symbolizes sacrifice, Christ's divinity,
His sweet savor, and His priestly role. It is also a symbol of the Divine name
of God."
Do you suppose the precious smoke contained ORMUS?
Warmly,
Sharon
From: "Vlad"
Subject: Re: WhiteGold: ancient process to make
ormus
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 19:33:28 +0200
The phoenix reference is interesting. It could be
suggestive that Frankincense and Myrrh contain orme-gold acting as a seed for
the true stone. Try calcinating the ashes of both plants on low heat until they
are snow white, then alkaloid extract them. I suppose you could use alcohol or vinegar
to extract like the ancients would've done, and then distill the extract to get
the oil out of it, if any would be present. More modern solvents like ether or
xylene could also work, who knows.
Vlad
Subject: ORMUS in Frankincense ?
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 22:20:25 -0400
I know that a while ago someone posted on the
possibility of ORMUS in Frankincense .
Last night I built my first ever water trap with a friend of mine. It took us hours and we had to jury rig it
because we couldn't find all the "correct" parts, but all the time we
were using some oils that had Frankincense and Myrrh in it.
We had taken some Frankincense and Myrrh and ground
it up in a mortar and put in some olive oil and spread it on the backs of our
hands, the wrists, following the veins up the arm, and on the back of the neck
and the forehead. I noticed a warmer
feeling within minutes, and a light sense of intoxication a few more minutes
later. This was the cleanest most enjoyable
feeling that I have had in a long time, and it made me want to work on the trap
more and more. I sat down with the old
Dremel and started crafting. I was able
to get so into the work, it was amazing, I kept spreading the oils on the same
parts after they had evaporated for most of the night.
Now I have never taken ORMUS before this night, and
I had no basis for comparison (until the next day and drinking some trap
water); but I am sure that it helped us complete the trap swiftly and with
greater craftsmanship than I usually exhibit.
I roll my own cigarettes to save money, and while
rolling one I noticed a remarkable increase in my dexterity, I was able to roll
it PERFECTLY, and it burned long and smooth.
The next morning I woke up and anointed the same
parts of my body again and then went to the hose to check out the trap. Almost no tweaking was required, we used 18
magnets (rare earth from radio shack) in 2's with 3 groups of 2 on each
section, and 3 sections in total (the groups of 3 were all equidistant and
aligned to the same pole).(I will give Barry some pictures soon, perhaps he
will add them to the trap page?)
Our ORMUS exit section was, unfortunately 1/4"
instead of 1/8" and I think that and the missing polypropylene disks made
the water slightly weaker than we had hoped, but we both verified the same
feeling in the water that was in the Frankincense and Myrrh oils.
I hope this interests some people. I would all go out and buy some Frankincense
and Myrrh and try it. In addition to
the buzz that I experienced, a few other things happened.
With the oil my hands, arms and face all got a
richer skin tone and became MUCH softer to the touch. I had cut myself while fashioning something out of wax ( gotta love
carving wax) pretty badly. It was
bleeding quite fast and I went to the bathroom to take care of the wound. By the time I had cleaned it out and went to
put the band-aid on it, it was already done bleeding. I don't mean it had a scab already, it was just that the bleeding
suddenly stopped, and giving how vigorously it was coming out before I didn't
expect it to stop so soon (there was no plasma viable on the exterior as there
often is with a wound, this was fixed internally).
Me and my friend have no doubts that the Oils
helped us and guided us with our little project, making our trap a very good
one indeed (can't wait to fix those 2 small errors and add a WHOLE lot more
magnets).
Thank you all for answering my silly questions as I
did the research that I require before trying anything so radically new. Thank
you for inviting me so graciously into your world.
My thanks and love goes out to all of you,
Dan
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 23:32:02 -0700
From: Barry Carter <[email protected]>
Subject: ORMUS in Frankincense?
Dear Dan,
It is interesting that you should propose the use
of frankincense and myrrh in conjunction with ORMUS. According to the Bible,
Jesus was brought gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. Glenda Green, the
author of one of my favorite books, Love Without End - Jesus Speaks, has
recently started making and selling a line of essential oils. One of them is
called Christ Scent which, according to her web page, includes:
"a proprietary blend of seven oils which
include Frankincense for transcending all negativity, Myrrh for healing a
wounded heart, Sandalwood for universality, sage for wisdom and
purification."
Perhaps she will incorporate ORMUS gold into it
too. You can see her oils at:
http://www.lovewithoutend.com/sacred_oils.htm
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 16:46:14 -0400
From: Holland
Subject: Frankincense & Myrrh
Try Google-Herbs, Essential oils, that sort of
thing.
Frontier Herb Co-op
Frank is usually a resinous excretion ,usually
comes as resinous beads or chunks, Myrrh usually is a powder with a granular
appearance sometimes found as a fine powder.
I can usually find them at a health food store that
has a Frontier Herb BULK herb display or order on-line direct from Frontier or
any other.
Olive, grapeseed, almond, apricot, sesame,
macadamia all make nice carrier oils. I like grape because it disappears
completely, very nice.
Sincerely
Holland
Subject: Re: WhiteGold: ORMUS in Frankincense?
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 10:12:19 -0700
Hey Ya'll,
Actually Glenda (lives up the road) and I just started experimenting with
mixing Christ Scent with my ORMs. The first samples got delivered to her
yesterday.
The
resulting mixture is totally different from either of them alone. It is very
serene, expansive, unifying. Glenda told me that her 'consultant', J.B.J., said
that Christ Scent needs gold in it.
I tried
migrating the ORM into the oil using magnetic spin bar. This is not quite as
astounding as the two together.
It
might take a few tries to get this R&D satisfactorily completed.
Stand by.
LoPHI, Chaz
From: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 22:45:40 EDT
Subject: frankincense and myrrh
Hi all,
This
is Will, the other person who made a trap this weekend and who throughout was
applying olive oil with ground myrrh and frankincense gum (looks like white or
brown rocks) in it. When i apply it i
feel immediately warm and clear headed, This effect lasts for about 2-3 hours.
I also notice that when i use it my veins become enlarged and i am able to concentrate
intently on a single task for any length of time as well as doing the task with
speed, efficiency, and tact. After just
a few days of usage all of the areas to which i applied it became much more
supple and looked infinitely more alive, I am Irish and very pale however now
my skin is almost tanned looking. I
suspect that it has an effect on melanin which would account for the
improvement in skin tone, also it seems to allow my blood cells to grab and
distribute oxygen more efficiently.
I
gave my mom some oil to try (she has severe carpel tunnel syndrome) and after
only 2 days the feelings have begun to flow throughout her hands. I have researched medical uses for
frankincense and myrrh and one of its effects seems to be that it works on
nerve centers and can benefit most with nervous disorders. In addition to the hands improving she is
going to stop taking her blood pressure medication because with the frank. and
myrrh it has gotten really low. If all
of this happened after two days i can only imagine the long term health
benefits. Since i ran out of olive oil
i switched to Jojoba oil and decided to apply a small amount of heat to the
oil, frankincense, and myrrh. When i
did this it filled the room with a wonderful aroma and made me feel very stoned
minus the bad side effects. The possibility of these substances containing high
concentrations of ormus or other m-state particles is quite high however even
if they are not present the healing effects are undeniable. I recommend that others try these biblical
substances and see the results for yourselves.
with extreme happiness and love,
Will McCawley
Subject: RE: WhiteGold: ORMUS in Frankincense?
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 09:46:16 +0200
Agree about the topical application of both
Frankincense and Myrrh in oil form.
However, tinctures made of both of them, using your trap water or mixed
with collected full moon dew are very digestible and highly beneficial.
Michele
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From: Sharon
Subject: Re: WhiteGold: frankincense and myrrh
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 08:13:17 -0700
WOW, Will!
This is SO cool! Your experiments may be opening a
discovery of another affordable, effective way to bring ORMUS into our body.
There is certainly a difference between the resin
beads of Frankincense and Frank EO. Some chemicals are water soluble, others
are lipid soluble. Without pretending to be smarter than I am (I missed
chemistry in high school - I missed high school entirely), it would seem that
the resin beads would contain the complete profile of chemicals while the EOs
would contain a concentration of only the lipid chems.
Returning to my 'communication with an ORME'
vision, I believe I was being shown that ORMUS has different 'languages' - some
water based, some mineral based, and possibly some lipid based.
I was also told to submerge myself in ORMUS and now
I'm eager to try your heating method to infuse the air in my house with Frank
ORMs. If anyone else is going to try this please keep the heat as low as possible
- a slow cooker on low might do the trick. Many of the chemicals are destroyed
by heat. Back in the 'flower child' days we used to place a drop or two of EO on
a light bulb so when we turned it on it would aromasize the air. The heat from
the bulb destroyed many of the healing properties in the EOs.
Thanks again Will!
- Sharon
Subject: Frankincense and ORMUS
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:07:03 -0400
Ok,
So I shake the bottle of jojoba oil up before I
apply it in order to get the silty Frank. and Myrrh to circulate again. I have noticed several weird things happen
when I shake up the bottle.
For one, the particles don't always settle to the
bottom. Sometimes I have seen the
particles rise up on the outsides and sink towards the middle. As if that wasn't strange enough, I put the
freshly shaken bottle down next to my alarm clock this morning. 2 hours later ALL of the darker frankincense
particles had gathered on the one side closest to the clock. The concentration was so high that it changed
the color of the whole silt. Usually it
is a darker tan color. Today once it
separated ¾ of it was off white and the rest (the magnetically effected area)
was a dark brown/black.
This is could be evidence of ORMUS in the
frankincense SPECIFICALLY, although I would not discredit various m-state in
the Myrrh I would guess that the frankincense is where it's at.
I plan on experimenting with some rare earth
magnets and this suspension when I get home.
I had heard that ORMUS might leak out of the
container if placed near a strong magnetic field. My guess is that the alarm clock is none too strong, however when
the ORMUS comes out, is it only the ORMUS or does a bunch of other stuff (like
the suspension it's in) come with it?
Respectfully,
Dan
Subject: Re: WhiteGold: Frankincense and ORMUS
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:53:00 -0700
If ORMUS creates a Meissner field around itself and
has a difficult time interacting with other dissimilar magnetic fields then why
would the particles aggregate towards the clock if the clock is producing a
magnetic field. If the particles you
are seeing in the jojoba oil contain ORMUS and they are aggregating towards the
magnetic field of the clock then could they be in synergy with the magnetic
field created by "electronic" devices. It would be interesting to experiment with the magnetic field
produced by a biological life form.
What would happen if the jojoba bottle were left near a plant overnight?
Scott
From: "Larry Schamber"
Subject: Re: WhiteGold: Frankincense and ORMUS
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:07:34 -0500
Dan wrote:
"if that wasn't strange enough, I put the
freshly shaken bottle down next to my alarm clock this morning. 2 hours later ALL of the darker frankincense
particles had gathered on the one side closest to the clock. The concentration was so high that it
changed the color of the whole silt.
Usually it is a darker tan color. Today once it separated ¾ of it was off white
and the rest (the magnetically effected area) was a dark brown/black. This is
could be evidence of ORMUS in the frankincense SPECIFICALLY, although I would
not discredit various m-state in the Myrrh I would guess..."
Until now I wasn't sure that this talk about
frankincense and myrrh containing ormus was valid.
Dan, what kind of clock was it? Was it the kind
with an AC induction motor and a clockwork mechanism, in other words not a
digital clock?
I think an AC induction motor puts off a rotating
magnetic field ala Tesla's Philadelphia experiment.
If it was specifically an AC induction motor field,
then we could draw a comparison with an ormus puddle being drawn toward a human
being. Earlier someone posted a question about why this happened, and I had no
answer.
The rotating magnetic field in iron is causing a
circulating qflux spin field nearby because of the strong AC magnetic field in
the iron core of the clock's AC motor. The spinning and nutating currents in
the iron core are generating a gravitomagnetic field. This is similar to
DeAquino's antigravity experiment. With an iron core and a 60 Hz AC field he
proved 100% nullification of gravitational mass. The ormes are being caused to nutate
and create a local gravity null field, and these fields are drawn together.
While I've given an esoteric explanation, it could
simply be that it's identical to the way a magnet draws iron, or the way an AC
solenoid draws an iron plunger.
Love,
Larry Schamber
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:30:12 EDT
Subject: Re: WhiteGold: Frankincense and ORMUS
Hi everyone,
Its
will again...with regards to the clock the probable reason for the sediment to
go to the side with the clock on it is that the silt itself probably contains
some metal of some sort. However just
because the sediment is attracted to the magnetic source doesn't mean that the
orme is as well! As you know there is
potential for the orme to "tunnel" through solid matter. I propose that a weak magnetic field might
encourage orme if there is in fact any to take up refuge in the oil as opposed
to the sediment. As for the idea of
setting it by a plant for the night i will place it by my cacti tonight to see
what happens. a plant is pretty close but
something living would be much better, if anyone can think of a way to attach a
bottle to my cat without it getting shaken let me know!!!
I'll be here a while,
Will McCawley
Subject: RE: WhiteGold: Frankincense and ORMUS
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:54:19 -0400
I hate to say it but it is a plain old digital
alarm clock...of course it has a small transformer in it. Here are the trans's specs.
AC 120V 60Hz * 2watts
the frank moved toward the clock, and the
transformer was on the far side of it
|--|
|fr|
|---------------|
|an|
| clock |
|k.|
| | <-transformer |----
|--|
|---------------|==================|------plug |----
hope my poor ascii art comes out good on the other
side, Barry please watch for this when forwarding.
From: "Larry Schamber"
Subject: Re: WhiteGold: conversation with an ORME
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 08:05:26 -0500
Hi Sharon!
Perhaps this makes sense:
The grail or golden chalice is Au-ormes, which in
olden tymes was called frankincense gold. The grail chalice was used in the
last communion, about which I have suggested that the disciples were dosed with
Au-ormes/frankincense gold.
The deep well of water is the spirit.
"If you had asked me, I could have given you
water by which you would never
thirst again."
The knight is the grail seeker.
The grail seeker takes a drink from the well of
spirit using the grail::
The Christed-one partakes of the Heavenly spirit by
using Au-ormes.
Love,
Larry Schamber
Subject: Re: WhiteGold: ORMUS in Frankincense?
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 13:05:16 -0400
The Blood-Brain Barrier
by David Stewart, Ph.D., R.A.
It was thought for years that the interstitial
tissues of the brain served as a barrier to keep damaging substances from
reaching the neurons of the brain and the cerebrospinal fluid. Instead of a barrier, it would be more
accurate to consider it as a sieve or filter through which only molecules of a
certain size or smaller can pass.
Most of the molecules of the substances used in
chemotherapy are too large to pass through the blood-brain filter, which is why
doctors say that chemotherapy doesn't work on brain cancer. Some of the smaller
molecules get through, but not the whole suite of drugs intended.
Doctors don't know for sure, but it seems that in
order to cross the blood-brain barrier, only molecules less than 800-1000
atomic mass units (amu) in molecular weight can get through. Lipid solubility
seems to be another factor, which facilitates passing through the blood-brain
barrier. Water-soluble molecules don't usually penetrate into brain tissue,
even when very small. The molecules of essential oils are all not only small,
but lipid soluble as well.
In fact, when it comes to essential oils, small
molecules (less than 500 amu) are what they are made of. That is why they are
aromatic. The only way for something to be aromatic is for the molecules to be
so small they readily leap into the air so they can enter our noses and be
detected as odor. That is why oils for cooking or massage, such as corn,
peanut, sesame seed, safflower, walnut, almond, canola, olive and other oils
pressed from seeds are not aromatic. Sure, they have a smell, but you can't
smell them across the room in minutes as one can when you open a bottle of
peppermint, hyssop, or cinnamon oil. Essential
oils of every species cross the blood-brain barrier.
This makes them uniquely able to address disease,
not only from a physical level, but from a more basic and fundamental
level, that of the emotions which are
often the root cause of physical illness.
A Quick Course in Chemistry Because of the tiny
molecular structure of the components of an essential oil, they are extremely
concentrated. One drop contains approximately 40 million-trillion molecules.
Numerically that is a 4 with 19 zeros after it: 40,000,000,000,000,000,000. We
have 100 trillion cells in our bodies, and that's a lot. But one drop of
essential oil contains enough molecules to cover every cell in our bodies with
40,000 molecules. Considering that it only takes one molecule of the right kind
to open a receptor site and communicate with the DNA to alter cellular
function, you can see why even inhaling a small amount of oil vapor can have
profound effects on the body, brain, and emotions.
Essential oils are mixtures of dozens, even
hundreds, of constituents, all of which are composed of carbon and hydrogen and
sometimes oxygen. All essential oils are principally composed of a class of
organic compounds built of "isoprene units."
An isoprene unit is a set of five connected carbon
atoms with eight hydrogens attached. Their molecular weight is only 68 amu,
which is very small, indeed. Molecules built of isoprene units are all
classified as "terpenes." Terpenes are what make essential oils
unique in the world of natural substances.
Phenylpropanoids
Phenylpropanoids are compounds of carbon-ring
molecules incorporating one isoprene unit. They are also called hemiterpenes.
There are dozens of varieties of phenylpropanoids. They are found in Clove (90%), Cassia (80%), Basil (75%),
Cinnamon (73%), Oregano (60%), Anise (50%), Peppermint (25%). While they can
create conditions where unfriendly viruses and bacteria cannot live, the most
important function performed by phenylpropanoids is that they clean the
receptor sites on the cells. Without clean receptor sites, cells cannot communicate,
and the body malfunctions, resulting in sickness. [note from Sharon, be sure
never to expose cats, being true carnivors, to phenylpropanoids. Their livers
do not have the enzymes to break them down and they can be deadly to them.]
Sesquiterpenes
Sesquiterpenes are compounds of three isoprene
units, which is fifteen carbons and twenty-four hydrogens per
molecule-molecular weight 204 amu. There are more than 10,000 kinds of
sesquiterpenes. Sesquiterpenes are the principal constituents of Cedarwood (98%),
Vetiver (97%), Spikenard (93%), Sandalwood (Aloes) 90%, Black Pepper (74%),
Patchouli (71%), Myrrh (62%), and Ginger (59%). They are also found in
Galbanum, Onycha, and Frankincense (8%). Sesquiterpene molecules deliver oxygen
molecules to cells, like hemoglobin does in the blood. Sesquiterpenes can also
erase or deprogram miswritten codes in the DNA. Sesquiterpenes are thought to
be especially effective in fighting cancer because the root problem with a
cancer cell is that it contains misinformation, and sesquiterpenes can erase
that garbled information. At the same time the oxygen carried by sesquiterpene
molecules creates an environment where cancer cells can't reproduce. Hence, sesquiterpenes deliver cancer cells a
double punch-one that disables their coded misbehavior and a second that stops
their growth.
Monoterpenes
Monoterpenes are compounds of two isoprene units,
which is ten carbon atoms and sixteen hydrogen atoms per molecule-molecular
weight 136 amu. There are an estimated 2,000 varieties of monoterpenes. Monoterpenes are found in most essential
oils: Galbanum (80%), Angelica (73%), Hyssop ((70%), Rose of Sharon (54%),
Peppermint (45%), Juniper (42%), Frankincense (40%), Spruce (38%), Pine (30%),
Cypress (28%), and Myrtle (25%). While offering a variety of healing
properties, the most important ability of the monoterpenes is that they can
reprogram miswritten information in the cellular memory. With improper coding
in the DNA, cells malfunction and diseases result, including lethal ones such as
cancer.
The American Medical Association (AMA) has said
that if they could find an agent that would pass the blood-brain barrier, they
would be able to find cures for ailments such as Lou Gehrig's disease, multiple
sclerosis, Alzheimer's disease, and Parkinson's disease. Such agents already
exist and have been available since Biblical times. The agents, of course, are
essential oils-particularly those containing the brain oxygenating molecules of
sesquiterpenes.
The Triple Whammy
The big triple punch combination of "PMS"
(Phenylpropanoids, Monoterpenes, and Sesquiterpenes) found in essential oils is
very powerful in addressing many illnesses, injuries, and disease conditions.
That is because this combination offers the following:
First, you clean the receptor sites allowing the
proper transfer of hormones, peptides, neurotransmitters, steroids, and other
intracellular messengers. (The Phenylpropanoids do that.)
Second, you deprogram or erase the wrong
information from cellular memory stored in the DNA. (The Sesquiterpenes take
care of that.)
Third, you reprogram the cells with the correct
information so they can function properly. (The Monoterpenes do this.)
These three classes of chemical components are why
essential oils can sometimes affect a healing that is nearly instant and also
permanent. What they simply do is to restore the body back to its natural state
of balance and health. While a specific oil may have one or two of these three
classes of compounds as its predominant chemistry, all the Biblical oils
contain some of all of them. This is one secret to their amazing healing
abilities. So there you have it in a nutshell: The way the blood-brain barrier
works and the biochemistry of one of the ways essential oils can help achieve a
healing.
Subject: RE: WhiteGold: ORMUS in Frankincense?
Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 08:52:45 +0200
Tinctures are extractions of herbs or resins in
either a mix of alcohol or water or just plain alcohol. They are usually placed in glass jars in a
warm sunny spot for a few weeks or months, shaken every day or so. After a period most of the herb/resin has
imparted the essence of the herb into the alcohol mix. Tinctures are usually added to water when
taken. Any plant material that is left
over is reduced to ash and ingested in conjunction with the tincture.
Hope this helps
Michele
From: "Larry
Schamber"
Date: Wed, 07 May 2003
14:10:17 -0500
Subject: [ormus_swg] Why
feed plants trap water
Hi Hank!
I don't know how much of
the previous attempts to grow plants with trap water (TW) or other sources of
ormes you are aware of, so I will link it here and you can read it if you want
to. In general, the results have been good.
Scarce experiments have
been tried. One reason we were driven in the direction of feeding ormes to
plants was that we sought any means to measure the effects. We have strong
spiritual and consciousness raising effects, but these are too subjective. It
would be neat to have something like an ammeter, except it would be an ormeter
or spin meter. Some piece of hardware that could give you a physical readout of
the presence of ormes in a sample. We don't have this yet, although I have been
thinking hard about it and have some practical ideas. Nobody has built anything
yet.
I am without a doubt
convinced of the effects of ormus from personal experience. It is hard to
convince some others, because they would have to consume it to believe our
subjective reports. But they won't believe our reports, so they don't consume
it.
There is a perverse and
perturbing contrariness in people to consuming consciousness altering stuff, in
part because of drug war mentality. I drink grape juice and eat raisons every
day as part of my total ormus diet. These are without a doubt natural and
harmless foods. Yet, I have met resistance from people to this idea!
So this is the broad
picture of what we are trying to acheive: undeniable empirical data that ormes
have some beneficial effect upon life.
Somebody fed trap water
to flowers (roses?), and had doubtful results. I cannot find the place in
Barry's website. You can judge improved flowers by the brightness of the blooms, or the length and robustness of the
stalks and leaves. That is mainly a subjective measure. That is why I prefer to
do this test with a fruit or vegetable with a gelatinous flesh that can be weighed.
We see that ormus seems to accumulate in gelatinous vegetable matter: aloes,
grapes. Therefore, eating these TW fed vegetables might have secondary esoteric
benefits, equal to consuming wet method ormes. I'm more interested in this
aspect than in growing bigger vegetables. Ormus vegetables could be radical
spirit and health promoting items.
Walnuts were fed C-11,
an ocean water extract made by the wet method. Therefore, the comparison to
trap water might be strictly unjustified. http://subtleenergies.xyz/ormus/tw/walnuts.htm
Here's a page with
pictures and text about some orchid cactus that were fed trap water.
http://subtleenergies.xyz/ormus/tw/orchidcactus.htm
What's interesting about
that is that after they were fed TW they appeared to emit a fire that did not
consume the plants. There are photos. This is one of the many points of
comparison that has led me to accept the idea that ormes are in the Bible as
crucial element of the spiritual pursuit of God.
What is most exciting
about ormes to me is that ormes are a leading character in the Bible. I can
confirm with my own experiences that one will experience Bible type wonders.
BUT, only if a person has an effective spiritual practice. He who does not have
a knack and a desire for spiritual practices can take ormes and probably notice
no extraordinary changes.
Here's what the Bible
said about the angel in the burning bush: (many verses, skip them if you wish)
Exodus 3:2-4
And the angel of the Lord appeared unto
him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold,
the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. [3] And Moses said, I
will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt. [4]
And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of
the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.
We can speculate on how
ormes got into the ground on Mt Horeb (near Sinai) that fed the bush. But we
can confirm from the cactus experiment how it does happen exactly as the Bible
said. Moses wasn't hallucinating. And if plants fed TW emit this visible cold
fire, what parallel effects might it have in a human being? Well, some people
have reported being visited by angels as bodies of light after consuming ormes.
This is part of the literature, and I can confirm this from personal
experience. It's also Biblical.
Later Moses brought the
Israelites to Mt Horeb and prepared white powder of gold for them:
Exodus 32:20
And he took the calf (of gold) which they
had made, and burnt it in the fire, and ground it to powder, and strawed it
upon the water, and made the children of Israel drink of it.
The blessing of the
"the precious things of the earth and... him that dwelt in the bush"
upon Joseph, Ephraim and Manasseh. Prophets say that Ephraim and Manasseh are
America prophetically.
Deut. 33:16-17 And for the precious things of the earth and
fulness thereof, and for the good will of him that dwelt in the bush: let the blessing
come upon the head of Joseph, and upon the top of the head of him that was
separated from his brethren. [17] His glory is like the firstling of his
bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push
the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of
Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.
This next verse has long
puzzled me. Today's interpretation is this: "the dead" means the
spiritually dead, which includes the physically living who lack spiritual
perception. This verse is descriptive of the spiritually living, which were
angels (God, 'elohim) in the burning bush. This was the spiritual resurrection
in which Jesus described exactly how he would rise up. And we have an exact
idea how, because he mentioned the burning bush in the context of resurrection.
Of course, I contend that the "frankincense gold" brought to Joseph,
Mary and Jesus by the magi Melchior was in fact white powder of gold, the same
mentioned in Ex 32:20. I guess this was the source of ormes that Jesus consumed
before his baptism, in about his 30th year.
Luke 20:35-38 But they which shall be accounted worthy to
obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are
given in marriage: [36] Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto
the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the
resurrection. [37] Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush,
when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God
of Jacob. [38] For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live
unto him. Mark 12:25-27
Acts 7:30,35
This is drifting off
topic and I have nothing more to say for now.
If we love one another
with the Love that God has shown to us, God can dwell in us.
Larry Schamber
Subject: RE: WhiteGold: Plane travelling
Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 10:54:52 -0400
Vlad,
Energize yourself before meditation, I typically
try to defocus my eyes, and use my mind to pick out specific aspects of color
and shape. Don't cross them, just fuzz
out the vision. Move the eyes back and
forth slowly, around a natural light source, pay specific attention to it, but not
only to it. This can deploy a lot of
the body's natural energies; I found it worked very well for me even the first
time I tried. Also breathing and ORMUS help the process. I have never had a successful projection (I
get scared too easily) but I have been outside my body many times. Once my eyes are defocused I use several points
on my body that have been applied with frankincense oils to channel ki to my
head. I put the oil on my forehead,
back of neck, backs of the palms and wrists, and on both sides of the
feet. (left and right, not on the sole). The last place I have tried Applying it is
to the area of energy located
1inch below your navel. I usually imagine the tingling sensation on the skin where the
oils were applied, to be focusing energy, and shoot that energy to the next
spot, until it is channeled all the way to my head. I then use it to "unzip" my body. That is such poor terminology, and I
apologize for it but there isn't any other way to describe it. I usually find myself several inches lower
than my body, and it is asleep. I have
experiences much more luck with meditating lately after eating ORMUS. Perhaps you should go and get some jojoba
oil and some frankincense. I think it
is a great meditation tool.
-Dan
AKA: Sespress (to stop confusion there are many
dans/daniels now)
From: Sharon
Subject: Re: WhiteGold:
Frankincense
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003
11:30:55 -0700
>Hello:
>
>Here is an
interesting Frankincense link:
>
>http://www.panspantry.co.uk/frncense.htm
Dear Nameless,
Thank you for this link.
I learned a great deal more about Frankincense, and in particularly got clarity
on the confusion between species names Carteri and Sacra. This sort of
confusion happens a lot. For instance the biblical references to Hyssop is
believed to refer to Oregano and not to the plant that eventually got the name
of Hyssop.
There was also mention
of the use of labeling cheap frankincense 'Omani', which supposedly insinuates
the frankincense originated in Oman. If people are interested they can merely
ask where a product was harvested. The website stated that the time of year it
is harvested and other factors contribute to the quality, but this information
would be harder to extract.
When searching prices
for frankincense resin I saw it was quite cheap. Generally, though, there was
no other information as to the species of plant it came from so one can only
assume it was probably a lesser quality. But even a lesser quality may be
quality enough for a meaningful ORMUS experience.
This website helped
clear my confusion about Myrrh which is sometimes referred to as Sweet Myrrh or
Opopnox, but it didn't offer a complete understanding. I can get EOs for Sweet
Myrrh 'Commiphora guidothi' (least expensive) & Sweet Myrrh 'Commiphora
erythrea', as well as (Bitter) Myrrh 'Commiphora myrrha' (most expensive).
For those people
interested in ancient rituals Pan's link at <http://www.panspantry.co.uk/incstrd.htmoffers
an interesting read. There was mention of the Knights of Templar as well as the
traditional gifts of kings (gold, frankincense & myrrh) made every Epiphany
(Jan 6th) and I believe these things must relate to ORMUS in some way.
Quizzically,
Sharon
From: Barry Carter
<[email protected]>
Subject: Anointed with
Oil
Dear Sharon,
At 01:11 PM 5/15/2003,
you wrote:
>>From: Sharon
>>Subject: Re:
WhiteGold: Frankincense
>>Date: Thu, 15
May 2003 11:30:55 -0700
>
>For those people
interested in ancient rituals Pan's link at
><http://www.panspantry.co.uk/incstrd.htm>
offers an interesting read.
>There was mention of
the Knights of Templar as well as the traditional
>gifts of kings
(gold, frankincense & myrrh) made every Epiphany (Jan 6th)
>and I believe these
things must relate to ORMUS in some way.
The terms
"Christ" and "messiah" both seem to relate to anointing the
head with a substance. The word "christened" is an obvious
connection. In Genesis of the Grail Kings Laurence Gardner wrote the following
about the derivation of the word "messiah":
In ancient Egypt, the
pharaohs were anointed in the Mesopotamian tradition with the fat of the sacred
crocodile, who was epitomized by the god Sobek and was called the Messeh: In
Mesopotamia, the equivalent noble creature was the Mus-hus, a giant serpentine
quadruped not unlike the great forked-tongued monitors still found in Africa,
Arabia and the East, and the mighty 10-foot (3m) Komodo dragon of Indonesia.
It is from the words
Messeh and Mus-hus that the Hebrew stem MSSH derived - the stem which (with
added vowels) formed the verb mashiach (to anoint) and the noun Messiah
(Meschiach), which means 'Anointed One' - i.e. King or Christ (Greek: Kristos).
This was a custom which began with Enki's anointing of the Adama (King Atabba),
an event detailed in the archives of Pharaoh Amenhotep III, who reigned about
1400 BC. Although the term 'Messiah' is generally applied to Jesus, it is
correct to say that he was 'a' Messiah rather than 'the' Messiah, for all
anointed kings of the line were Messiahs, as indicated in Psalm 105 (verse 15),
and Jesus did not achieve his Messianic status until anointed by the priestess
Mary Magdalene at Bethany in March AD 33.
Thus messiah would
appear to specifically relate to anointing with oil.
Since gold, frankincense
and myrrh all have an oil form, it is not too much of a stretch to imagine that
a mixture of these oils might have been involved in the christening of Jesus.
--
With kindest regards,
Barry Carter
From: Sharon
Subject: Thoughts on
Myrrh
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003
08:15:50 -0700
>You may find this of
interest also--------
>
>http://www.specialtydreams.com/christmas/gold&myr.htm
Dear No Name,
Thanks for this link. I
read this at the bottom of the page about Myrrh:
From this same distant
part of the world comes the last of the gifts of the Magi, myrrh, a shrub
related to frankincense, of the genus Commiphora. The sap of myrrh is extracted
in the same way as that of frankincense, and it comes in small lumps of
reddish-brown resin. But its symbolism is more somber. The word myrrh comes
from the Hebrew mar, meaning "bitter." The ancient Egyptians used
this resin in embalming, and hence its connection with solemn occasions. Was
this a strange gift for an infant King? Not for one destined to die for his
people.
From my research, there was more to myrrh
than it's use in embalming. Following is a segment from literature I offer in
my EO classes. Note that the recipe for the Holy Anointing oil is in the last
paragraph. I have not had an interest in making this oil as I don't
particularly like Cinnamon. Cassia is made from the leaves and twigs of the
Cinnamon plant, so all and all there is a LOT of Cinnamon.
"Myrrh is a resin
produced by a small, tough, scraggly tree with grows in semi-desert regions of
North Africa and the Red Sea region. Resin flows from naturally formed slits
that are pale yellow when liquid, but hardens to a reddish-brown mass, being
found in commerce in tears of many sizes, the average size of a walnut. Several
species are recognized in commerce, but true myrrh is known as Turkey myrrh.
The word myrrh means "bitter" in Arabic."
"According to the
translation of ancient Egytian Heiroglyphics and Chinese Manuscripts, priests
and physicians were using essential oils thousands of years before the time of
Christ. According to Greek mythology, Aphrodite forced the goddess Myrrha into
an incestuous relationship with her father, Cinyras who avenged the act by
turning her into a tree. When the tree blossomed
the child Adonis was born. The resinous
drops are said to be Myrrhas tears."
"Ancient cultures
made myrrh an integral part of religious rituals, medical practice, beauty
treatments and perfumery. Writings from over 2,700 years ago mention myrrh and
its uses in enbalming, perfumery and incense and with the reputation of being a
valuable wound healer. Myrrh also had a
more secular use as a perfume for the wealthy. Of the modern studies done on Myrrh,
one found extracts to increase glucose tolerance, another study tested it
successfully with frankincense on tumors."
"EXODUS 22 Moreover YHWH spake unto Moshe,
saying, 23 Take thou also unto thee
the chief spices: of flowing myrrh five hundred [shekels], and of sweet
cinnamon half so much, even two hundred and fifty, and of sweet calamus two
hundred and fifty, 24 and of cassia five hundred, after the shekel of the
sanctuary, and of olive oil a hin. 25
And thou shalt make it a holy anointing oil, a perfume compounded after the art
of the perfumer: it shall be a holy anointing oil."
Warmly,
Sharon
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003
10:36:42 +0200
From: Javier
Subject: Re: WhiteGold:
Anointed with Oil
Dear Barry:
At 17:42 15/05/03 -0700,
you wrote:
>From: Barry Carter <[email protected]>
>Subject: Anointed with Oil
>
>Thus messiah would appear to specifically
relate to anointing with oil.
>
>Since gold, frankincense and myrrh all
have an oil form, it is not too much
>of a stretch to imagine that a mixture of
these oils might have been
>involved in the christening of Jesus.
Gardner in Bloodline of
the Holy Grail says:
"Among the more
colourful books of the Old Testament is The Song of Solomon - a series of love
canticles between a sovereign bride and her bridegroom The Song identifies the
potion symbolic of espousal as the aromatic ointment called spikenard. It was
the same very expensive spikenard that was used by Mary of Bethany to anoint
Jesus's head at the house of Lazarus (Simon Zelotes) and a similar incident
(narrated in Luke 7:37-38) had occurred some time earlier, when a woman
anointed Jesus's feet with ointment, wiping them afterwards with her hair.
John 11:1-2 also
mentions this earlier event, then explains how the ritual of anointing Jesus's
feet was performed yet again by the same woman al Bethany. When Jesus was
seated at the table, Mary took 'a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly,
and anointed the feet of Jesus, then wiped his feet with her hair: and the
house was filled with the odour of the ointment' (John 12:3).
In The Song of Solomon
(1:12) is the bridal refrain, 'While the king sitteth at his table, my
spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof'. Not only did Mary anoint Jesus's
head at Simon's house (Matthew 26:6-7 and Mark 14:3), but she also anointed his
feet and wiped them afterwards with her hair in March AD 33. Two and a half
years earlier, in September AD 30, she had performed this same ritual three
months after the Cana wedding feast.
On both occasions the
anointing was carried out while Jesus was seated at the table (as defined in
The Song of Solomon). This was an allusion to the ancient rite by which a royal
bride prepared her bridegroom's table. To perform the rite with spikenard was
the express privilege of a Messianic bride and was performed solely at the
First and Second Marriage ceremonies. Only as the wife of Jesus and as a
priestess in her own right could Mary have anointed both his head and his feet
with the sacred ointment."
Best wishes,
Javier
From:
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003
19:02:54 EDT
Subject: Re: WhiteGold:
frankincense and myrrh
Hi Karen,
Sorry i took soooo long to reply to
your post on frank. and myrrh...but as far as getting these substances the
first place to look would be a health food store(might have to get it specially
ordered), or a Christian supply store, or an esoteric shop but if all these
fail then you can order it from the Internet at:
frankincense (BoswelliaThurifera):http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/f/franki3
1.html myrrh (Commiphora myrrha):http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/m/myrrh-66.html
jojoba oil:i find that other types of oil are more effective and cheaper... the one that works best oddly enough is any
type of vegetable oil (i use canola), although i prefer veg oil olive oil seems
to be the next best thing....
i have been
experimenting with ways of dissolving the gum resins with the oil and my newest
and best method so far is as follows:
1) go to the grocery
store and buy some rubbing alcohol then add plain salt (must be plain (not
iodized)) and shake vigorously....let it settle into two layers and the top one
will be pure isopropyl alcohol. 2) take a good amount about a cup to a gram
total of frank and myrrh resin and combine with the alcohol. 3) cover and let
sit in a cool dark place for at least a week. 4) this should leave you with
some dark alcohol. take small amounts of this tincture and put it into a ample
amount (let's say about 1/4 cup but whatever you want is fine) the idea is to
stir the oil until it no longer smells like alcohol...keep adding a small
amount of seasoned alcohol to the oil and stirring it until no more will dissolve.
4) apply liberally to affected areas and anywhere else you please (I suggest
the backs of the hand, nape of the neck, middle of forehead, and the tops of
your feet)
an alternative but less
effective method would be to just put some powdered gum into the oil of your
choice (not much will dissolve so you don't need to put much in) and heat it
over VERY LOW HEAT (especially if it is jojoba oil seeing as how it is quite
flammable) allow to cool and use it as you like....
lovingly,
Will McCawley
From: Sharon
Subject: Re: WhiteGold:
Oozing Ormes?
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003
10:13:46 -0700
>I seem to remember
reading something Rudolf Steiner spoke about with
>essential oils. As
oils were made from seeds, the most concentrated part
>of a plant [energy
wise: the seed contains whole forests within : kings
>were anointed with
oil for this reason and many others], they have a large
>etheric component.
thus they are always trying to escape to the 'etheric'
>realm they
manifested from... hence essential oils always seem to develop
>a crystal/resinous
crust around the lid even when closed. As honey is
>deemed a magical
substance by virtue of its origin [flowers] and its
>alchemical
collectors [bees] it seems the related
process is occurring...
>or maybe my lateral
thinking has become a little too lateral.
>Dan ST
Hi Dan ST,
I do not think you are
too lateral.
Rudolf Steiner may have
spoken about essential oils, I wouldn't know. Another way to impart the
elegance of a seed or herb to an oil is to soak it in a non-volatile oil such
as olive oil. This, I believe is what some people are doing with Frankincense
and Myrrh resin. There is sometimes confusion between oils and essential oils.
They are not the same. Only volatile oils can fill a room with fragrance.
Some essential oils are
made from seeds. The ones that I came up with are:
Ambrette Seed
Caraway
Cardamon
Carrot Seed
Celery Seed
Coriander Seed
Cumin seed
Fennel
Nutmeg
Tomar Seed
There are two in this
list that I believe deserve special attention. The obvious one is carrot seed.
If ORMUS is particularly high in carrot, then the essential oil of the organic
carrot seed might be an interesting source. I LOVE carrot seed EO, but most
people do not. When I blend carrot into an EO mix, then its fragrance is no
longer unappealing.
The other EO derived
from seed that deserves attention is Black Cumin. I am eagerly anticipating a
shipment of organic Black Cumin oil to arrive in mid summer. When it does I
will post to the list. It is worth researching, but do not get it confused with
ordinary cumin. I would post the Latin name but my computer is malfunctioning
at the moment. For anyone making ORMUS-herbal formulas, look into this one. It
is very promising.
Dan, after reading your
post I became curious to identify where most EOs come from. Following is a
sampling of 135 essential oils.
Aerial parts = 31%
Leaves & twigs = 18%
Berries/fruits = 11%
Flowers = 9%
Resin/gum = 8%
Rhizomes/roots = 8%
Seeds = 8%
Bark/wood = 6%
Warmly,
Sharon
From: Sharon
Subject: escaping honey,
magnets, EMF
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003
09:46:12 -0700
Great Biblical quotes
Larry, and report on your honey quest. I particularly liked Proverbs 24:13-14
which relates eating honey to acquiring wisdom and knowledge, and being
rewarded with one's expectations. Keep eating Larry!
Weeks ago there was a
flurry of posts about escaping honey and about this time I discovered another
escaping product - my very last bottle of top-grade Frankincense essential oil
which a few of you bought from me earlier this year. My husband is rather addicted
to Frankincense and particularly liked this special product, so when he ran out
I grabbed up this last bottle from the retail store that carries my products.
This store is a bit
unusual because it is screaming with EMF, otherwise I would encourage ORMUS
producers to put products into it since many of the patrons hear about ORMUS
from me anyway. But the EMF is so strong that it electroplates the metal
particles trapped behind wall pictures and other hangings into the paint on the
wall. When a wall hanging is taken down there is a permanent grayish mark left
on the wall. This concerns me regarding what happens when I leave EO's in
there, so I made the decision to not store extra product there. Anyway, I
brought this bottle of frankincense home after it was exposed to EMF in this
store for a couple of months. After Bill used this product for 1-2 months, when
it was nearly empty, he told me that there was something weird about this
bottle of EO because he noticed that was coming out of the bottle no matter how
careful he was. Sure enough the entire bottle was sticky as well as the shelf
it sat on.
This made me curious. If
this effect is stimulated by EMF exposure, shouldn't it stop once it is removed
from EMF?
Have you all seen the
video of the powdered gold being charged with a magnet and jumping away? I know
Barry shows this in his presentations.
Months ago Chaz sent a
special ORMUS/EO concentrate and gave me instructions on how to dilute it.
These instructions included using an electric whizzing machine (it's like a
blender but is a single unit that fits nicely into a drinking glass). Barry
thought this wasn't a good idea because it exposed the ORMUS to EMF.
Here is my BIG stupid
question - Can electricity 'charge' ORMUS? Could it be desirable to expose
ORMUS to EMF at some point?
I am curious how many
ORMUS products are produced within the influence of EMF. I think it would be
interesting to see if there are some products produced under the influence of
EMF and if these are more or less 'powerful'. Remember the story about Jim who
generated immense electricity using his Ozone generator and the powerful
experience he had when it all blew up?
For anyone who is
curious to locate an inexpensive EMF scanner, get a hold of a cheap AM
TRANSISTOR radio. It must be a TRANSISTOR radio though. Radio Shack used to
carry them for under $10, but they don't any more. I found one on E-Bay for
under $5. Here is how to scan your house for EMF: -Go outside and set the dial near the low end (around 55). Place
it between stations and turn the volume down to barely audible.
-Walk slowly up to your
building. If the radio begins to squawk then the entire building is screaming
with EMF.
-If the radio remains
normal then use it as a scanner. Be sure to scan low and hi, and to scan
outlets and appliances when they are on and off. Check rheostats and even the
most innocuous appliances such as electric tooth brush transformers. Know what
is on the other side of the wall from where your head rests at night. If it is
a kitchen be sure to test the area when the refrigerator is running. [My
grand-daughter was showing signs of vast EMF in her voice print and I
discovered that she slept with headphones on that were putting out major EMF].
The bottom line question
I have is - Can EMF charge ORMUS?
Warmly,
Sharon
From: Sharon
Subject: Re: WhiteGold:
1.water filtration 2.trap efficiency 3. ormus
rearrangement
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003
15:58:33 -0700
In Regards to #3-
> > 3. Someone
wrote here several months ago that when
>ormus is removed
from water, the remaining ormus sets
>about re-structuring
the water. If this is true, then
>why doesn't all
water have plenty of ormus? Sounds
>doubtful to me. But
on the outside chance, I'm
>guessing that my
leftover water might remain useful
>for a while to run
through the trap. Thoughts?
>Opinions?
There needs to be
specific quantity of ORMUS and, given other attributes, ORMUS can restructure
the water (or person). The environment needs to be quiet and non-contaminated
(people too). Underground wells work because nature pre-choose these geographic
locations, so the necessary requirements are probably already in place. I've
heard that water drawn from wells into a magnetic trap have eventually INCREASED the ORMUS content
in the well water so that using a trap becomes obsolete. This might be because
enough ORMUS lags behind, not wanting to go through the magnetic field, and eventually
potenizing the safe receptacle of the well itself. Once it reaches a point of
concentration it creates more ORMUS. People do this too. This is why discussing
least toxic living topics here is directly pertinent to ORMUS.
I've also been thinking
about magnetic fields... I recited some observations a while back about some
Frankincense EO that was subjected to an EMF field and how there after it oozed
out of the container until gone (about 2 months). The other bottles of this
product did not escape their bottles, only the EO that was exposed. Why did it
continue escaping AFTER it was rescued from the EMF environment? It seemed as
though the ORMUS within the EO was awakened - like Sleeping Beauty.
Assume that some ORMUS
lags behind and resists going through the magnetic trap. Does it return home in
an enlivened and awakened state?
Warmly,
Sharon