David Hudson said this in his UFO Congress lecture: "gold out of sea water was the white powder gold"

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by Barry Carter

Created December 11, 2013

Updated September 12, 2015

David Hudson said this in his UFO Congress lecture: "gold out of sea water was the white powder gold". You can listen to this at:

http://subtleenergies.xyz/ormus/tw/seawatergold.mp3

David Hudson said that even distilled water contained these substances and that "if you distill water thinking you are getting high purity water, it goes with the water". He added: "There is something else besides H2O in the water."

Here is the entire quote from Hudson's Portland workshop about ORMUS in distilled water:

"This little zero point frequency I showed you between the positron and the electron; if you follow that right up the electromagnetic spectrum, it agrees with the molecular frequency of hydrogen dioxide, or water. So there is an affinity for this material and water. That's why it is normally taken in water. When you come to understand that your body is, in fact, mainly water. That, literally, this material when you distill water it distills with the water as the oridide, the iridide, the ruthidide. Just like chlorine. And so if you distill water thinking you are getting high purity water, it goes with the water. And it literally changes the bond angles of the water. That one iridium atom controls 56 waters of hydration around itself. And all the bond angles of all 56 waters are altered when iridium is present. I haven't carefully studied the research work of people working with water but I strongly suspect that their water isn't completely pure and they are finding that the bond angles can be changed. There is something else besides H2O in the water."

Here is a post about ormus/orme assay and naming problems that I sent to the WhiteGold forum in 2012:

Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:39:22 -0700
From: Barry Carter <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: WhiteGold: Undocumented Claims

Dear Bob,

I've been doing this for almost a decade. Here is something I posted about this last November:

You've pointed out a significant problem that David Hudson and the existing ORME producers are going to have to deal with. HCl products are required to show the percentage of HCl that they contain. Similarly, ORME/ORMUS producers probably will, at some point, be required to show how much ORME/ORMUS (they are both the same thing) is in their product.

David Hudson addressed this problem in some of his lectures when he described how his chemists were able to purify some of his ORMUS gold until it assayed as "pure nothing":

http://subtleenergies.xyz/ormus/tw/PureNothing.htm

On the page above you can find the following:

Don makes and sells the white gold powder (as a wet precipitate) under the name "Golden Tear" so the assay on this substance is named GT1205. The lye assay is named RDL and the HCl assay is named SMARTFG.

I have put these three assays into a spread sheet where you can compare the elements that show up in the assays with the unassayable ORMUS gold:

http://subtleenergies.xyz/ormus/tw/AcmeGT1205.xls

Notice that only 2.74 parts per billion of gold shows up in this precipitate which was made almost entirely from 99.99% pure gold metal. The only other components were lye, HCl and hydrogen peroxide with whatever contaminants were in these components.

Also notice that, if you exclude the sodium and chlorine from the assay, only 979.25 parts per billion of other elements show up.

This means that this assay shows the white gold precipitate to be 99.9999% pure nothing, with only 0.0001 percent of the total assay showing up as something that is identifiable.

David Hudson also told us how he hoped to address this identification/purification problem in his Enota lecture and in his conference call. He said he is trying to raise enough money to set up a research facility to develop identification/purification procedures that meet scientific standards.

There are a number of major problems that must be overcome in order to meet the government standards for nutrient identification. One of these problems was illustrated in an email to this list that I titled "Weight Problems":

Jan Denlinger makes a product called Shot for plant use:

http://gardenshot.com/

He is having a bit of trouble selling his product by weight. A gallon of his product will vary in weight from about seven pounds to about ten pounds. Jan regularly sends samples of his product to a professional agricultural lab for mineral analysis. He called me on June 14 and told me that the person who analyzes his product was having a real problem nailing down the weight of one particular gallon of the water and fish/worm casting mix. He said that this guy weighed the same gallon four times and the weight went from 7.6 pounds to 7.4 pounds to 7.8 pounds to 7.2 pounds. This was on a professionally calibrated electronic scale.

Any physicist will tell you it is impossible for water to weigh less than 8.3 pounds per gallon and it is even more impossible for water to change its weight.

This begs the question: are these differences due to astronomical/astrological conditions or something else we cannot identify/quantify?

Don Nance's assays of his ORME gold product have revealed another problem. At:

http://subtleenergies.xyz/ormus/tw/goldentear.xls

you can download a spreadsheet which has four different assays on Don's Golden Tear product. This product is made from pure gold but the amount of assayed gold in it varies from a low of 0.21 parts per billion to a high of 10945.65 parts per billion. Other elements in the assays show similar variations. Are differences in the source materials responsible for these differences or are they due to other conditions like exposure to EMF in shipping?

I have been encouraging people to assay their products for a long time. I sent out a request to the ORMUS providers, in early 2003, to send me assays of their products. On May 22, 2003 I posted the results from three ORMUS providers at:

http://subtleenergies.xyz/ormus/tw/assays.htm

One of these providers is no longer active but Arthur Zeigler at Sea-Crop.com and Don Nance at OceanAlchemy.com have continued to share assays and stories that have been very beneficial to the ORMUS community. Arthur had some product assays on his web site at:

http://liquid-chi.com/store/index.php?main_page=page&id=12

The Liquid-Chi assay was averaged from about a dozen assays on his precipitate and these assays varied from about 45% ORME to about 35% ORME. This begs the question: are these differences due to differences in the sea water samples or are they due to other factors?

Ormus and Ormes are the same active ingredient. The potency of Ormus/Ormes is dependent on concentration as well as other factors that have not been fully identified.

Though these words refer to exactly the same thing, I prefer the term Ormus because it is not an acronym that presumes, without any supporting evidence, that these elements are orbitally rearranged and monoatomic.

You can hear David Hudson describe how he thinks that the 5/9 weight ORMUS materials (and he does use the term ORMUS) heal by resonance effects at:

http://subtleenergies.xyz/ormus/tw/Hudson-ORMUS-Resonance.wav

In response to the following question: "Of all the different methods of producing ORMUS, which would you say would be the highest benefit for the human body?" David Hudson said that the easiest way to make it from gold was to use the "sodium fusion" method:

http://subtleenergies.xyz/ormus/tw/Hudson-Sodium-Fusion.wav

We have been calling this the sodium burn method.

Hudson then went on to describe how to do the sodium fusion method.

Both of these excerpts are from the David Hudson conference call and should put to rest the contention that David Hudson thinks that ORMUS and ORMEs are different things.